It's unfair to the payers of a public health system to burden them with the special and expensive care demanded by a small group of people who holds beliefs that originate in 3,000 year old rites. One more example of "how religion poisons everything"
never a jw
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Canada starts fight-back against bloodless surgery?
by darkspilver ini'm sure orphancrow will be able to fill in the details for us.. front page news with picture all over the canadian globe and mail newspaper today.. with major double-page spread across the whole of pages 8 and 9 in the newspaper's front section.. globe and mail, tuesday 8 august 2017.. the patient, a 70-year-old man with high-risk prostate cancer, was a jehovah’s witness.. his religion was one of the reasons he decided to undergo surgery at st. joseph’s healthcare in hamilton, home to a robot named da vinci whose steady metal hands can remove a prostate with scant risk of the blood transfusions forbidden by the man’s faith.. on a recent afternoon, the patient laid unconscious on an operating table as surgeon bobby shayegan and his team plunged a camera and three robotically controlled surgical instruments through small incisions in his abdomen.. dr. shayegan settled himself in front of a three-dimensional screen, clasped the two joysticks that controlled the tools inside his patient’s pelvis and proceeded to cut, cauterize and stitch until he freed the man’s prostate, pulling it out through one of the original incisions.. there was next to no blood.. “that was routine,” dr. shayegan said afterward, holding the plum-sized gland that he and the robot had removed together.
...in its first real ruling on a robotic surgery, the expert committee that advises ontario on which new health technologies to pay for said there was no good evidence that robot-assisted radical prostatectomy is any better than conventional open surgery when it comes to controlling cancer or preserving urinary and sexual function.. the panel said the robot’s other benefits – patients have smaller incisions, lose less blood, suffer less pain and leave the hospital sooner – were not significant enough to justify spending, on average, an extra $3,224 a case, a figure that does not include the millions that wealthy benefactors have spent buying the machines for canadian hospitals.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/health-and-fitness/health/the-fight-for-robots-in-canadas-operatingrooms/article35897282/.
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WT shooting themselves in the foot, or rather the mouth, finally
by oppostate in"stop the presses!".
awesome blog article at bereans.net !.
http://beroeans.net/2017/08/07/stop-the-presses/.
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never a jw
"although compelling to those who bother to think it through"
When I read The Gentile Times Reconsidered of COJ some years ago, I became passionate about the subjects involved, especially Babylonian astronomy, because it was about using facts and evidence to uncover JW bullshit. But this business of using bullshit to uncover bullshit (interpretation of the Bible to demonstrate that JW's got the two flocks completely wrong) has never been an attractive exercise of the mind. I just have to leave the other sheep alone.
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Rookie exJW Question
by Phoebe ini was wondering if someone could help me with a question.. i am a rookie exjw, i only left the organization 4 months ago and everything i've discovered (un/arc/malawi/mexico etc) i've only discovered in the last few months so you can image it's been a huge shock to me especially after after 50 yrs!.
every time i think i've heard everything, something else pops up.. now i've come across a youtube video that mention tv evangelizer jimmy swaggart and the watchtower.
i remember jimmy swaggart from the time i lived in the u.s.a and i remember the scandals with him and prostitutes etc.
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never a jw
"it would be who is selling the literature, the Watchtower through an agent or would the retailer be the individual JW"
Let's not play stupid or ignorant. We know who ultimately keeps and manages the money. You are suggesting that the individual JW, after being exploited, still may have to register and file sales tax returns. The Chutzpa!!! Haven't they gone through enough??
The sales tax is always paid by the final user, never a merchant. The merchant, however, in order to be able to sell, is obligated to collect the sales tax from the sales tax payer and pass it to the government. The Watchtower gets all the money. The Watchtower must pay.
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Rookie exJW Question
by Phoebe ini was wondering if someone could help me with a question.. i am a rookie exjw, i only left the organization 4 months ago and everything i've discovered (un/arc/malawi/mexico etc) i've only discovered in the last few months so you can image it's been a huge shock to me especially after after 50 yrs!.
every time i think i've heard everything, something else pops up.. now i've come across a youtube video that mention tv evangelizer jimmy swaggart and the watchtower.
i remember jimmy swaggart from the time i lived in the u.s.a and i remember the scandals with him and prostitutes etc.
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@John Davis
"As a side note, I am not sure if they would have been correct or not, but Watchtower would not have paid this tax but each individual JW would pay the tax from the donation. That would mean that each individual JW would have to register with the state board and any local agencies if a county or city also wanted to tax the literature. So each JW would have had to file a quarterly tax return and send "
NON SENSE
I collect the sales tax from all my customers. They don't have to register. I do. I pay that sales tax that I collect directly from my checking account.
Similarly the final collector of the money paid for the Watchtower merchandise is the Watchtower. They have to pay tax.
The dishonesty comes from trying to tell rank and file that they (Watchtower) decided to voluntarily give away the literature. They were forced to NO SELL. Same thing with the case in Mexico. They refused to register as a religion because it was not a financially convenient move. They wanted to own real estate. Rank and file never knew this and never will, unless they learn the truth about the truth
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The most successful teaching of Jehovah's Witnesses and an amazing new book on the divine name
by slimboyfat injehovah's witnesses have had to revise their chronology and various doctrinal interpretations due to events and scholarly corrections.
but the one teaching where they have been consistently ahead of the curve is the importance of jehovah's name.. .
i'm going to run through a (necessarily selective) timeline of jw events and scholarly publications that demonstrate the phenomenal success of this teaching in the last days.
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johnamos: "the sun will be turned into darkness and the moon into blood before the great and illustrious day of Jehovah arrives"
We have three of those (called eclipses) every year. I can make predictions like that every day. The difference is that my prediction will happen. Let's try:
"the sun will be turned into darkness and the moon into blood before the Summer Olympics arrives"
Talk to you in three years
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The most successful teaching of Jehovah's Witnesses and an amazing new book on the divine name
by slimboyfat injehovah's witnesses have had to revise their chronology and various doctrinal interpretations due to events and scholarly corrections.
but the one teaching where they have been consistently ahead of the curve is the importance of jehovah's name.. .
i'm going to run through a (necessarily selective) timeline of jw events and scholarly publications that demonstrate the phenomenal success of this teaching in the last days.
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Johnamos,
I knew it. It was God himself (Joshua) who killed thousands to steal their land (the promised land).
What's worse? to kill thousands or to order to kill thousands? Both are pretty bad. Don't know
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Drugs, prayer & altered states of consciousness
by deegee inhave you got your "fix" yet?.
hallucinogens are known to induce altered states of consciousness..........but so can prayer:.
acts 10:9-23: "on the next day, as they were on their way and approaching the city, peter went up on the housetop about the sixth hour to pray.
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never a jw
Yep! That's how it works.
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Sunday's W.T angered me + I found an ironic scripture
by Isambard Crater induring the "do you love me more than these" watchtower study on sunday, i got so angry on many occasions, hearing people make comments like "if you enjoy your job, you're an enemy of jehovah" and "the only reason we're here is to preach.
work and relaxation only exist to help us to preach".. the paragraph talking about the "do more!
" attitude in the world getting people down really got me down just reading it, as it applies so much to the borg.. i also found the ecclesiastes scripture quoted to be ironic, as the rest of the article tells is that nothing is better or more of a priority than to preach;.
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Fanatics
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The most successful teaching of Jehovah's Witnesses and an amazing new book on the divine name
by slimboyfat injehovah's witnesses have had to revise their chronology and various doctrinal interpretations due to events and scholarly corrections.
but the one teaching where they have been consistently ahead of the curve is the importance of jehovah's name.. .
i'm going to run through a (necessarily selective) timeline of jw events and scholarly publications that demonstrate the phenomenal success of this teaching in the last days.
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Room 215,
My point exactly. Of course Slim uses the "logic" of JW's . JW's found one guy who wrote Jesus was not crucified and turned that into a "fact". Slim finds speculation from three scholars and takes it as if it's gospel. Pun intended.
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The most successful teaching of Jehovah's Witnesses and an amazing new book on the divine name
by slimboyfat injehovah's witnesses have had to revise their chronology and various doctrinal interpretations due to events and scholarly corrections.
but the one teaching where they have been consistently ahead of the curve is the importance of jehovah's name.. .
i'm going to run through a (necessarily selective) timeline of jw events and scholarly publications that demonstrate the phenomenal success of this teaching in the last days.
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Slim,
Of course there's a connection between Judaism and Christianity. Jesus was a Jew. But very rapidly these religions grew apart. Therefore we have to adhere to the oldest writings of each religion and their evolution if we want obtain the original intent of the author. You can speculate all day long, but at the end of the day you have to stick to the evidence. The NT does not contain God's name, whatever the reason. Perhaps it was so sacred that it shouldn't even be said or written. So a true Christian, according to the evidence from the oldest NT books, should not be flaunting God's name as JW's do. Some of the most recent and respected translators of the Bible do not use "Jehovah" in the OT because they know was not intended by the original writers. And obviously, in the NT the translators don't use any name of God at all because they are forced to stick to the evidence. Evidence should matter.